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Monday, 01 November 2010


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You know... I have nothing to add -- on this you do a fairly good job of speaking for me.
Although, sometimes I wonder if it's just that I've blocked all the pain and anger -- after all, who would willingly want to visit that place again.


Brava, sing it sister! I'm right there with you :)

And your words? Beautifully said.


Whatever the reason, I'm glad you now feel like you got to the place you wanted to get to. And I hope your friend reaches the same place eventually.


Beautifully put.


My guess (and it's just a guess) is that the difference between you and your friend is that you fought infertility and won (two beautiful children), whereas she fought infertility and found a workaround that may have brought her a child, but didn't give her the children or the experience that she had originally hoped for. I'm in the middle. I'm no longer wallowing in the hell that was childlessness, and am OK most of the time, but I definitely still feel angry. Not every day, and not with the intensity that I felt before, but definite anger (which, sadly, is most intense whenever I see my older sister's third child--the one she conceived "by accident" at the same time I was failing an IVF cycle). I think that my lingering anger relates to me trying and failing to have a second child. My last memory of infertility is defeat, not victory. I also remain bitter about the fact that I didn't get to manage my infertility the way that I would have chosen had things been different. I didn't have the money or the situation that allowed me to do IVF until it worked. Or maybe it's because I'm still in limbo as I wait for Godot Mystery to decide whether he's up for adoption or DE or none of the above. Or maybe it's your knowledge that you're done with it all that gives you your (relative) peace. I felt a huge relief after my last IVF was over, even though it failed, because I didn't have to dread it anymore. But since we're still considering adoption or DE, there are still things to dread.

I'm happy to hear that it ended for you. That gives me hope.


I love this. I hope I get there someday, too.



this is a test.


So glad you are there. I was trying for a second after getting lucky and managing the first. m/c followed by aborted IVF ( and nearly aborted marraige) followed by m/c followed by nothing...
I can truely report that I would be way more upset to see a +'ve now. Of course that might be because I turned 50 this year and could not imagine parenting a teen at 70. OK the real problem is that I could imagine parenting a teen at 70 and I really don't want to go there.
I do hope your friend reaches that place of faded pain someday. And I"m really glad you are there.


You hit the nail on the head exactly. Those aches, I think they're always going to be there. But the hurt, it's just not as, raw as it once was. Perhaps time, while it hasn't healed the wounds, it's definitely scarred them over enough that I don't feel it on a regular basis, like I once did.

I try to go back and remember that pain, from time to time. Trying to put myself back into that place. That feeling. It's difficult, and I have a hard time pegging if it's two healthy children, or if it's just...time.

And like you, I feel that nostalgia, and yearning. My two, are about all I can handle. Mentally, physically. My worry of another being sick, or worse, far weighs out my desire for a million babies. That and I'm not particularly enjoying three (years). Three going into four has been really tough on me. But I've been feeling it more, as we wind down the babyhood with LG. She's longer now. Lankier. She doesn't snuggle up in the chair as well these days. She's a little girl now. She's fun, and has redeemed me as a "typical" parent, but still, the loss of them being babies really stings. More than I ever thought.

Thanks for writing this, both truly and a little sarcastically. :o)


I'm glad you don't feel it anymore. It would be rather awful if you did, no?

We're still fighting, and I guess as long as we do, I'll feel the pain. I dread doing that final attempt, because failing will be so hard - despite already having one lovely girl.

conceptionally challenged

Thanks for sharing. I hope that one day, I'll also be able to say (and feel) this.

Betty m

There is a certain roundabout off the Westway that I can't go round without a pit appearing in my stomach and a road in central London where a panicky feeling builds up in my chest as I think of the cycles and the scans which went wrong. It doesn't go but it is not often that I feel it hit hard. I'm not sure that I'll ever feel really done even though for all intents and purposes I am.


I feel the same way. I know others that don't. I know that I never imagined it would be possible to forget... but I do forget. I forget the specifics of the pain, of the overwhelming sadness. I just know that it sucked and now it is over. And I know that I am lucky... oh so lucky!

My Reality

I hope that one day, I feel the same way, too. I am thankful to read this post, there is hope that the pain may one day be changed. Thank you for giving me that hope.


New here...just want to say that we've "given up" by deciding not to try to do any treatment nor adopt. Never been pregnant. Now I also feel the same way more or less...the longing is still there, but no more anger or raw pain, even when my period comes. Our sex life has improved SO MUCH ever since we decided to "stop actively TTC".

I also think mostly it's 'coz of our prayers - my friends have also helped me in praying The Serenity Prayer. :-) I wouldn't have been able to achieve this state without their prayers.


Oops...I forgot to say that I don't forget about the pain and the anger, but it's just like you said: I know it, but I don't feel it anymore. It's like stepping over the circle of those emotions: pain/anger/jealousy/bitterness/etc. etc. I can see it from outside the circle, but it's not all around me anymore.

Sometimes I get closer to the circle when the longing strikes, but I'm not inside it anymore - not like what I felt when we were still actively TTC - it felt like the storm of emotions just hauled me here and there, leaving me bruised, battered, and breathless that I couldn't even see anything else outside that circle.


I understand. Me too. I forgot, I healed, I got over it. I never even read infertility blogs anymore. But all of a sudden you popped into my head.


It sounds like a nice place to be. To know, but not really feel it.
I know I will be the same some day.

(from the creme)


I'm glad it's just a memory for you. I think that's wonderful - it's not something that's fun to be in the middle of!

Mr. Thompson and Me


What a great post! Visiting from Creme de la Creme and I'll be back.


This was a very uplifting post. I'm so glad you've come so far in your journey that IF no longer haunts your thoughts and your feelings. I have been lucky enough to not come up (yet) against IF but I hope that pregnancy loss will stop haunting me some day. Maybe when I'm finished building my family and I know longer have to fear it. Maybe then. Until then, I will look to your story for hope. Thank you.

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I'm here from the Creme (a little late, but still here).

Thanks for sharing. I hope that when/if I ever come out the other side of my IF journey, I can say the same thing because it truly sucks right now on this side of the fence.

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